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The INCREDIBLE HULK

Saw the HULK this weekend and enjoyed it. A lot. The first half of the movie was freaking fantastic – I was in awe of what they were doing with flashbacks. And really, it’s official – Edward Norton is one of the best actors ever.

I loved everything about him in the first half. Tortured? Check. Sexy? Yeah. Intelligent? Absolutely. Unique? I thought so, and I sooo loved it.

And the villain = perfect…in the first half.

Liv Tyler was okay. If this had been her first role of this sort, I would say she was great, but she’s been that girl before. Long story short, she looked at Edward Norton as though he were Ben Affleck (can you tell I’ve watch ARMAGEDDON once too often?)

I will buy this DVD so that I can watch the first half over and over.

The second half? Hmmm… not my cup of tea. If you’ve seen King Kong plus any superhero-versus-anti-superhero, you’ve seen this one.

My guess? They designed it this way. Kept the innovation for the front half, and the traditional payoff for the second half. That’s fine with me. I like the innovation, but someone else might be yearning for the other. My thanks from both of us.

Even given this theory, I think they made a mistake when they took a very complex villain and allowed him to devolve into a garden-variety nemesis. They should have kept him the way he was at mid-movie (SPOILER – SKIP TO THE NEXT PARAGRAPH IF YOU WANT TO BE SURPRISED WHEN YOU SEE THE FLICK!!!– until mid-movie, he was somewhat enhanced, but basically a human, with all the baggage that a human has to overcome (and maybe even a little more, given his accomplishments and personality). Why turn him into a complete cartoon? It’s been done to death. This actor, combined with the backstory, brought so much more to the role…oh well…

End of SPOILER.

There was a touch of blatant promo/commercialism at one point that I found tacky, but oh well. I survived The Phantom Menace, so I guess I can survive anything.

All in all, I recommend that you see this movie on the big screen. Then see the first half again and again and again on the little screen. That’s my plan, and I think it’s a sound one!

Kate

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ttnette38
Jun. 25th, 2008 01:30 pm (UTC)
Hulk and ID Crisis...
Kate,

I am as excited about Identity Crisis as you are about the fist half of the Hulk! In fact, it has been SOOOOOOOO delicious that I was flipping pages too fast to even think about a snack.......*horrified gasp*....

I've been enjoying it so much that I brought it home from work to read. Which is a kiss of death as I spend all night up with my client so try not to read on my few hours off else I will never sleep. Man, but I love me some Melissa, er, Kristie!!

Your characters has so many layers! Wonderful way to start the book. In fact, I had to reread it about three or four times. Just cracked up when she....oops...won't say more. Sposed to be commenting on the hulk.

I didn't want to go see it because they just did a blasted Incredible Hulk a couple of years ago, didn't they? So, don't see much of a point. Of course, I didn't see much point in Superman Returns but actually enjoyed the first part but thought the villiainy stuff was a bit over the top. Same with Batman Returns. I LOVED how they explained how he became Batman but the villian stuff was so farfetched and cartoonery that I didn't enjoy it much. And the ending had me rolling my eyes. I do enjoy going back and watching the first half, tho. So, may end up getting the Hulk dvd on your say so....

Jeanette
ttnette38
Jun. 26th, 2008 12:29 pm (UTC)
Re: Hulk and ID Crisis...
Kate,

Already finished ID Crisis and moved on to Spin Control. Alas, I think Justin is a big jerk, so far, and want to go to Exit Control to see what's up with Ray??! I think Suzannah is neat so am going to flip a few more pages. Could have got another read but want to let them meander a bit.

Have to laugh at myself as I was alternately mad at Kristie for being moronic enough to try to talk to Will when HE could have been the one to have axed old irritant, then was mad at Will because I liked him. Then, I was mad at BOTH of them for not being true to themselves. WONDERFUL how you let them both be human and fallible and to fall, if for only for a brief time. Many would have taken them to the brink and turned around. But, they got to dive off the cliff and see the bottom.

And, the gallery scene! Beautiful. I won't even begin to ask about that. Just beautiful. And, the painting and handprint, plus the action. Felt like I had run a marathon at the end of the book. And, was so caught up I didn't even crack open my Hershey's that I bought for the pleasure!

delicious work,
Jeanette
katedonovan
Jun. 26th, 2008 01:59 pm (UTC)
Re: Hulk and ID Crisis...
Hi Jeanette,

If you're not too far into SPIN CONTROL, you should read EXIT first --- it's the sequel to ID Crisis. SPIN is really the third book. It doesn't really matter though -- SPIN can stand alone just fine. But for the progression of Kristie and McGregor's romance, it's fun to do them in order.

I'm glad you're liking the stories! It's funny that you say that about Kristie, because one of the reviews said I made her "too perfect, never makes a mistake" and I laughed, because to me, she made lots of mistakes -- her talent was recovering quickly and re-solving the problem

Kate

Kate
ttnette38
Jun. 26th, 2008 10:50 pm (UTC)
Re: Hulk and ID Crisis...
Kate,

Thank goodness I saw this 'fore I got to work! I HATE reading books out of sequence. I must have misunderstood the order. Yikes.

Hehe...doesn't matter because they will BOTH be read tonight! I made sure to take a good nap so I can read them back to back.

Not sure what your reviewer was reading. Her skill was getting out of the jams she put herself in!.....:)

Keep on a writin',
Jeanette

katedonovan
Jun. 27th, 2008 02:14 am (UTC)
Re: Hulk and ID Crisis...
Good timing!
ttnette38
Jun. 27th, 2008 12:26 pm (UTC)
Re: Hulk and ID Crisis...
Kate,

Exit Strategy is wonderful and Spin Control delicious. Kristie is such the blockhead, tho, for continually ignoring the rules and getting into trouble. I was really peeved with her for getting Miranda all hooped up such......:)

wunnerful,
Jeanette
katedonovan
Jul. 1st, 2008 02:32 am (UTC)
Re: Hulk and ID Crisis...
Oh, I'm glad you liked them, Jeanette!

And remember, if it weren't for Kristie, Miranda would just be a small time operative working sex scandals and such. And Suzannah would be dead! Or worse -- disbarred.

Just kidding.... But I'm a Kristie fan, what can I say?

Thanks for reading the stories!

Kate

ttnette38
Jul. 1st, 2008 09:02 pm (UTC)
Re: Hulk and ID Crisis...
Kate,

This is very true. In fact, I was all hopped up and ready to get into a scintillating debate about her and side with Will. But, seeing it how you just said that.....hhhmm.......

A litle girl would be dead, Will would still be frustrated and in the shadows and working alone. Miranda would have stayed a CIA tramp, Ray would have stayed locked in turmoil, old whatsherface never would have gotten hers, she helped save Will's sister, helped out the President of the United States, did not shoot those men in the head....

Okay, okay, I see your point already.....lol......

I wouldn't want to be her boss, but sute would like to have her on my side!....hehe....

Jeanette

P.S. I was as distraught as could be about Kell......*sniff*....thought he was going to end up at Ray's retreat and end up conquering his fears with the help of a new heroine...*sniff*....

P.S.S. It is onto Parrallel Lines, tonight!

P.S.S.S. My client got such a hoot out of me telling him about the latest pursuits in Exit Strategy. He couldn't hide the grins, this time. He usually tries to act all disinterested but his lights will be all lit like a Christmas tree. He couldn't hide the smiles, tho. Soon as I get to work, I check his vitals and make sure his machines are working alright and then grab hold of his hands and give him the lowdown on who did and said what, minus the romantic parts! I think it helps takes his mind of being sick. I know it helps take my mind off of seeing him this way. So, a double thanks from us both.....
katedonovan
Jul. 3rd, 2008 11:57 pm (UTC)
Re: Hulk and ID Crisis...
Thanks so much, Jeanette! and I'm glad your client likes the stories too. Tell him I hope he feels better.

Kate
ttnette38
Jul. 4th, 2008 12:27 pm (UTC)
Re: Hulk and ID Crisis...
Hehe...Kate, I think HE secretly likes Kristie, as well.

J

P.S. Yikes, Kate, I'd sure hate to run into Miranda in a dark alley! She reminded me of my client, what with her beating the tar outta those men!....lol....

I sure hated to see the series end.......*pout*....and, I am surprised to find myself wondering what kind of trouble Kristie is either getting into or out of......
klejarde
Jul. 13th, 2008 03:18 pm (UTC)
Hulkmania
I *finally* saw IH last night. And I totally saw what you mean by the first half of the movie. I loved it. Love the way they painted Bruce as a full human being -- lonely, pining for his love, humble, tragic, clever (i.e., mechanically inclined) and sharp.

But after he ended up in Guatemala and somehow HIKED his way back to Virginia?????????? And they didn't bother showing HOW he did this? I had so, so, so many problems with this, starting with:

1. Crossing the Mexico-US border in Chiapas, one of the most heavily guarded stretches of the US border, ON FOOT.

2. Crossing the Mexico-US border WITHOUT ID.

3. Hitchhiking???? Who accepts hitchhikers into their cars these days? I'll tell you: no one.

The filmmakers got so lazy! Where was Bruce's cleverness and ingenuity? In the second half of the movie, he basically got by on the kindness of strangers (girl giving him coins, owner of that diner) and brute strength (as the Hulk). What I would have liked to have seen is the Hulk trouncing Abomination using some guile and smarts in addition to all that brute strength. But no. The second have of the movie showed no cleverness at all. Why hire an actor like Edward Norton to portray Bruce Banner if you're not going to take advantage of his ability to believably project raging intellect???????????

Whew. Like you, I liked the first half. Got bored by the second. And I completely disliked the monster vs. monster fight sequence. Booooooring!!!!!!!!
katedonovan
Jul. 14th, 2008 01:24 am (UTC)
Re: Hulkmania
Hi Karm!

Can you imagine how good that movie would have been if they had used all of EN's talents and sustained their great writing/innovation until the end? It would have been the first superhero movie to get BEST PICTURE.
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